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Ayo Junior

Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 6 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 29/05/2010 13:13 Post subject: Gold to start with? |
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Hi guildies,
Remembering how difficult it was when I started my first char on Legion, I would like to know your opinion about giving a new member, low level and first starter char, some gold to start with.
(Yeah, I myself was too proud to ask for some money )
So he/she at least can buy training spells.
I was thinking of 20 or 50 gold.
Tell me what you all think of this idea.
Greetings,
Ayo _________________ In the end...it's just a game.. |
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menumorut Administrator


Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 255 Location: Heaven&Hell
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Posted: 29/05/2010 22:37 Post subject: |
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A GREAT idea Ayo,
it would help many alot, I did that myself sometimes . Not all the time to be honest and to my surprise i was refused a couple of times.
Some people like to play it the hard way, but I'm with you on this Ayo!  _________________
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MastaMinds Junior 2


Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Sudan
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Posted: 30/05/2010 14:42 Post subject: |
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I agree on one condition
we give them the starter gold and we ask them not to ask other members or officers for gold anymore until they reach a certain level
some people do nothing but asking others for gold
we must make the members know how to get gold them selves |
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menumorut Administrator


Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 255 Location: Heaven&Hell
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Posted: 30/05/2010 15:47 Post subject: |
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yes and no Masta,
Let me remind you that like the way we recruit we can also remove if they don't understand that begging and laziness is not appreciated here.
I have no hard feelings kicking anyone that begs for gold if that's all they do!
| Quote: | | we give them the starter gold and we ask them not to ask other members or officers for gold anymore until they reach a certain level |
First of all,
we initiate the action, not them. We help them with some gold to train and get stuff they need, they aren't asking for it. So, we cannot ask such a thing from them it would be insulting.
Secondly,
asking is not begging, and when someone begs we should ask him/her for what he/she needs it, and try to find a solution with him/her together to get the gold. If there is communication and understanding any problem can be solved, if the member continues to beg then there can be only one solution! let him know we don't have room for such people in our Community and invite him to find another guild.
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Yes members should learn how to make gold themselves, it's not hard for lvl 70-80 but!!! remember we are talking about low lvl new recruits SO they could use a helping hand!  _________________
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MastaMinds Junior 2


Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Sudan
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Posted: 31/05/2010 16:51 Post subject: |
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ty for th lecture though
anyway I was just trying to clearify my point and I did |
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Faluna Junior

Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 2
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Posted: 31/05/2010 20:54 Post subject: |
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Good idea I think it's good to give them some gold,
if they are like level 1-30 and if it's their first char on this server!
I think it's a good idea if we keep a log or add note to see who already received some gold though or it would be a chaos xD
And do we need to get this gold from guildbank or just use our own?
It needs to be clear to them that this is the only time we give them some gold and that we can't buy everything for them.
Like that they don't get used to get gold (like for riding skills example). |
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menumorut Administrator


Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 255 Location: Heaven&Hell
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Posted: 01/06/2010 08:27 Post subject: |
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I see your point masta, I know whats the risk when u give gold to anyone.
Let me tell you from a Guild Master point of view why I like Ayo's idea, and I agree with Faluna's comments also.
From a GM's point of view I care that our officers have connections with the guildies.
The best way to have a connection is to communicate, and if you guys are able to find out:
1. if he played or plays other chars on the server
2. If he/she knows how to make gold and is able to care for him/herself
3. If he/she is modest or greedy
4. If he/she speaks english good or bad or a bit
5. anything that gives you an idea about the future of the player on the server
Then,
I feel you have made the guild better and done your jobs to the full.
About the gold,
Last Month I upgraded the withdraw for all ranks with 25-30%. And now I've asked Mastaminds to help me correct the withdraw sums based on the economy of the server.
I have my flaws, my mistakes, and I need people connected and objective to help correct them/me.
I believe Masta is objective, we can all see that, I appreciate him for it amongst other qualities because I am sometimes subjective when it comes to helping the guild.
So,
Rank Private - 1 g/ day
Rank Corporal - 20 g/ day
Rank Sergeant - 70 g/ day
In my opinion max 50g is enough, we can take it out of Guild Vault ofc.
We can keep a log on the forum, or just use the Officer note.
Example: Officer note: menu++
where ++ shows he got the gold. _________________
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Ayo Junior

Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 6 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 01/06/2010 11:23 Post subject: |
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The ++ in officer's note will be a good option.
That way we are able to check if starters gold has been received.
The amount of 50 gold seems fair enough to me, the new char will be able to buy training spells and some low leveled stuff.
I'm IN for this.
Greetings,
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MastaMinds Junior 2


Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Sudan
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Posted: 01/06/2010 21:11 Post subject: |
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| menumorut wrote: |
I believe Masta is objective, we can all see that, I appreciate him for it amongst other qualities because I am sometimes subjective when it comes to helping the guild.
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oh no Menu
ty very much I had to say
and sometimes we all need to stop and think
our guild is getting better and more people are coming we need to consider that  |
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menumorut Administrator


Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 255 Location: Heaven&Hell
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Posted: 16/10/2010 19:23 Post subject: |
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So we are now in October 2010, I have applied ur suggestion for 3months and here are some results :P
Guild Has become one of the most active on the realm and the guild population has become 500+ with a max of 25online.
I have recruited player using the following:
1. /who 1-30 or 30-69 or 70-79 or 80
2. Arrange by guild
3. Ask non guild players: "Hi, would you like to join a good and friendly guild?" answer 80% of the time was yes
4. Invited them and sent them the next note with a Guild Tabard and 50g attached
"
Hey,
here is something to start with, train skills and maybe buy a new mount. If u need more you can always visit the guild vault.
Welcome to DivineS!
P.S. also make sure u read our simple guild rules posted at Guild Information.Thank you!
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